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Thomasp94 Forum:Admin, Forum:Mod, bureaucrat, checkuser, sysop
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| 2:29:39 PM - Wed, Apr 7th 2010 |
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I think rather than deleting old articles as the list grows we should archive them some how. We could sort them by month and eventually by year, that way there will be a record and a time line of sorts for state hospital news and events.
What does everyone else think?
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| 5:09:58 PM - Wed, Apr 7th 2010 |
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I'm all for it! 
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Edited On 5:39:02 PM - Wed, Apr 7th 2010 by M-Explorer
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Thomasp94 Forum:Admin, Forum:Mod, bureaucrat, checkuser, sysop
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| 1:04:29 PM - Fri, Apr 9th 2010 |
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| Any ideas or recommendations on how to handle the archiving? I guess we should make a category page for the years and months. Perhaps we should even copy the whole article when it is archived. It's pretty common for news websites to only keep a story up for a short time. I guess we should get something in place soon, as the portal is getting long.
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| 6:07:24 PM - Fri, Apr 9th 2010 |
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| I started working on it. You can see what I have so far here http://asylumprojects.org/index.php?title=Category:News_Archive. I think we should do this monthly so that it doesn't get too overwhelming, since this is taking a bit more time than I thought it would.
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| 6:29:45 PM - Fri, Apr 9th 2010 |
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| Archiving could be tricky, as Thomas pointed out, news outlets often dump info after a set amount of time, usually 90-120 days. I don't know about the copyright when it comes to copying an entire article for the archives from a news source.
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| 7:12:37 PM - Fri, Apr 9th 2010 |
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That would be my only concern is the copy write information.
However, what you can do that would satisfy that would be to include when you copy the entire article is: Copy the writers name, which agency (I.E. MSNBC, local paper, etc.) the writer wrote the article for, the date the article was written, if it is a magazine/paper then the edition if you know it. Basically give the people their credit due. Also, for copy write reasons, don't modify the prose. Leave it the way the author wrote/published it as. Then we should be fine.
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| 7:29:06 PM - Fri, Apr 9th 2010 |
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| Agreed. I was already putting the author and a link to the source. I will add the news outlet/agency as well. Once we get the layout down we should keep it the same for each monthly page, so if anyone has a suggestion or disagreement on how I have been doing it so far, let me know so I can make any changes.
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| 8:47:12 PM - Fri, Apr 9th 2010 |
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Ok, I added the name of the news agency at the top of the article right after the reporters name. I also made it a link back to the article, so now there is a link at the top and bottom of the article that will take you back to the original article.
As far as changing anything in the article, the only 2 things I have done is remove the excessive spacing that is common in news articles and I also try to put the full hospital name in the article title and link it to the database. If the article title only had part of the name (ie. Allentown instead of Allentown State Hospital) then I add the state hospital to it. If the name of the hospital isn't in the title at all then I put it in parenthesis behind the title.
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| 10:50:34 PM - Fri, Apr 9th 2010 |
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I added a link to the news archive at the bottom of the news portal and also moved some older news to their respective news archives.
Did I do it the way you were thinking Thomasp94?
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Edited On 12:04:42 AM - Sat, Apr 10th 2010 by M-Explorer
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| 1:18:32 PM - Sat, Apr 10th 2010 |
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Yep, that looks pretty good. The only thing I would recommend is to remove as much of the spaces as possible from the articles. When there are a lot of articles in one month (like March) if we don't remove the spaces the page length will be huge.
I have also been putting in any photos that are with the article to kinds give the news pages a nicer look. Line after line of text and been over whelming to a reader. A lot of articles also have videos, did you ever find a way to embed videos on the wiki?
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| 5:08:23 PM - Sat, Apr 10th 2010 |
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Problem with removing as much space as possible is that would be messing with the article formatting (I.E. a copy rights thing.). However, there is a way around that though, by creating a separate page for each article then posting a link to that article to the month's news archive. That way you would preserve the article formatting, but also not clog up the news archive page. maybe what you could do is create a sub category within the month's news archive and place the articles within that sub category.
I was using a company computer that I couldn't download any photos to and as far as embedding videos, I'm still working on that I just haven't had a chance to do it. My current schedule is sleep six hours, drive close to an hour to work, work twelve hours, then come home to sleep and do it all over again. On Tuesday, my day off I'll do it. I've seen a couple different ways to do it's just deciding which way works best for us.
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| 7:17:57 PM - Sat, Apr 10th 2010 |
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I had an idea/modification to your idea Thomasp94 that would archive the news articles while maintaining article formatting. Instead of creating a separate page for each month then linking the page with the news archive category, while not try it this way:
- Keep the news archive category, but instead of linking each month with that category, link each year.
- Then make each year it's own page.
- Within each year's page, the page is segmented by month.
- Under each month you put a link to the archived articles page.
- Finally, you create a page for each article and within that page you keep the same formatting if possible. Maybe we could create an infobox template that the poster could fill out with whatever copy write info they can find (I.E. author, publisher, published date, etc.) that could be put in each article.
What do you think?
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| 11:31:36 AM - Mon, Apr 12th 2010 |
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| I'm fine with doing it like that. It seems like a bit more work than the way I'm currently doing it, but it will probably look better.
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| 7:44:26 PM - Tue, Apr 13th 2010 |
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| I have made the changes. How do I go about creating an info box template for the top of the article page? I want to include the date, author, and source. Any other info that anyone thinks should be at the top of each article?
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Edited On 7:44:51 PM - Tue, Apr 13th 2010 by Thomasp94
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