My experience getting asylum records

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I wanted to share my experience getting asylum records for anyone else who would be interested in knowing what the process is and how to go about doing it.

My great grandfather was institutionalized most of her life, and as I am myself a mental health professional it has always been a wonder to me.. what were the circumstances of her admission? What was her diagnosis, what did she look like?

My family and I started by contacting the hospital, which is still in limited operation and was told that due to HIPPA laws they couldn't tell us anything unless we were the legal owners of her estate.

In order to take over her estate, we had to send notice to relatives saying what we were doing. And a couple of these relatives accused us of knowing about some sort of secret financial inheritance and challenged us, and refused to sign off on it. Eventually though, we got control of her estate. This document cost around $150.

With that we could finally get the hospital records. The records clerk acted very strange... sort of hinted that we wanted the records so that we could sue the hospital, and then stated that there might not be much in the way of records.

Well, we waited with anticipation to get the records and all it was, was a single piece of paper. Just had her name, birth date, and nothing else really. No diagnosis, no admit reason, no nothing. It was very disappointing.

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Dear Writer,

I am very sorry to hear of your experience, but it is unfortunately not uncommon. Many of the older places were not required or did not have very to keep very good records and records over a certain age are often removed or destroyed. In the facility I currently work at I believe the records maintenance requirement for most records is 10 years. The facility is also not necessarily required to go beyond that, though most places keep their records in storage after that time in order to be able to refer to them should they need to. Rarely is their a very good system of looking at what records should still be kept and other purged unless a file is needed for whatever reason. Most facilities run into this issue and often it is something that is not openly discussed. The most you can do is request copies of any additional records if any should exist and try and butter up the records staff. Failing that leverage (contact your local politicians or those local to the facility) can also help make files appear that might not have existed in the past. In Illinois, where I work, long standing court cases have added the layer that records from some facilities require a court order for family to access. I would see if their are any patient rights associations that are associated with the facility.

Best of Luck.

Sincerely,

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Thanks for the reply.

I have also worked in a psychiatric hospital in the past. I enjoyed looking at the historical records on patients, which dated back to around 1890. But they were not kept in any particular order, not alphabetical or anything. I suppose if that particular hospital were to get a records request, it would be much easier to say that they couldn't find anything or didn't have anything, than to go through everything piece by piece. It's a shame.

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Most states make the process of obtaining records as difficult as possible, whether on purpose or not, I cant say. The state you dealt with sounds like one of the more difficult ones though! I've had people tell me they call a certain hospital and are told to basically to "go away", while others say they talk to someone else and the person was able to tell them over the phone what records they had. Other times they'll tell families to get a lawyer and fight it if they don't like it, knowing how expensive that can be. I have yet to have anyone show me where in the HIPAA law it states they have to protect records more then 50 or 75 years old.


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